Hardly have time to blog these days, but here are a couple of my quick thoughts on the effects that Abhisit’s reconciliation road map is having.
1. PAD-Democrat split becoming clearer. The PAD are advocating a hardline stance against the reds, calling for a tough ‘enforcement of the law’ on the protesters. Many of their prominent members have come out to criticise Abhisit and some have accused the government of selling out to the red ‘terrorists’ and Thaksin. As the PAD and the Democrats draw their support from largely the same groups of people, the PAD’s public display of hostility toward the Dems is a huge gamble for them. One can imagine that the more radical supporters of the Dems will switch their votes to the PAD’s New Politics Party in the next general election, thus splitting the anti-Thaksin votes and potentially paving the way for an easy win for the Thaksin camp.
2. Is dissolution enough? We all remember that the reds’ initial demand in this round of protest is a house dissolution. From a strategic point of view, house dissolution is a much more meaningful and visible goal than the vague notion of “overthrowing the Amarts” which was the publicised aim of their past rallies. Yet last month it was the reds who broke off negotiations when it appeared that the government was ready to cut its term short and offer an early dissolution. This time the reds again appear not entirely satisfied with Abhisit’s offer to hold elections in November, which makes one wonder whether an early dissolution is what they really want. It would not be a surprise if the reds came up with a new demand tomorrow and continued their encampment at Rajprasong. In 2008, the PAD also suddenly changed their aims from preventing the amendment of the constitution to ousting the PPP-led government.
Of course it could be argued that the situation has changed since the start of the protest. The 10th-April violence was a turning point which, some reds feel, has greatly weakened Abhisit’s position and therefore these people believe the reds should take this opportunity to finish off the PM once and for all.
5 Responses to Implications of Abhisit’s ‘Road Map’
David Brown
May 9th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Abhisit is wrong about Seh Daeng. he, Thaksin, reds have nothing to gain from killings or disrupt roadmap… its (yellow related) military!
I cant see that the redshirts can leave the rally site while the military are still interfering in business and politics in Thailand
it will take a hero, Abhisit? to make the army return to barracks and stop their interference
if not the reds will have to wait for an election and hopefully a hero will be brought to power
its the military that are the problem not the solution
Anonymous
May 9th, 2010 at 5:55 am
Abhisit has no intention at all of honouring the dissolution/election timetable; his backers (…) have no intention whatever of relinquishing their hold on power so we must all spend our time thinking not about elections, but tactics, because the ‘road-map’ is a tactic not a strategy for Abhisit. Turkeys do not vote for an early Xmas.
The way it will go is this:
Abhisit will declare a dissolution date – he will do so in such a way as to suggest a reluctance, which in its turn will suggest a commitment under dures, but a commitment none-the-less. Smoke and mirrors.
In the intervening time Abhisit and his backers (…) will do three things:
1. They will search for a number of reasons not to dissolve the Parliament, the list of reasons he could use has already been provided in the form of his list of 5 preconditions to a dissolution, so this is where it will come from. All of these 5 preconditions are so deliberately vague and woolly that they could, and will, mean whatever he wishes them to mean come the day.
2. They will reinforce his position in several major respects, not least among which is getting the new Army chief in post, he will be decidedly more hawkish than Anupong, and is guaranteed to do the bidding of Abhisit and the Palace in declaring war on the Thai people.
3. They will pick off the leaders of the UDD one by one by stealth such that when he refuses to dissolve the Parliament, the UDD will be in no position to rally effectively again. The foundations for this process have already been laid.
I don’t see any alternative to believing this is the real intent of Abhisit and (…), to think otherwise is to simply be gullible.
The stakes have been pumped up far too high. Abhisit making this into a plot to overthrow the Monarchy will only have planted in the Thai mind that the Monarchy is not (…) as the propaganda machine would have it, and is actually vulnerable. Further, that many Thais are prepared to contemplate a Thai state (…). This was a very serious blunder but the genie is out of the bottle now.
The bunker mentality of Abhisit and (…) on its own will guarantee that this is very far from being over, and the mendacity, double-speak and deception that Abhisit has practiced in domestic and foreign interactions since he rose to power through the chicanery of (…) and the paid defection of Newin the betrayer guarantee that he should certainly not be trusted in this ‘road-map’ illusion.
Note: Apologies for so many edits but I needed to remove the bits that could spell trouble for me as the blog’s owner.
David Brown
May 9th, 2010 at 6:57 am
regarding the target of dissolution
“overthrowing the Amarts” is still the context, and this explains why the date for the offered dissolution is important, to both sides.
The November election date is designed so that dissolution can occur after the “Amarts” have secured the support of their military arm, after their funding and the promotion of Prayuth is secured.
as I said above the military is the problem.
without support by the military all the various “forces” must negotiate on equal terms.
The government can rightly call on the police but hopefully for even-handed management of crimes and crown control. The reds will not need to fear for their lives, the PAD/no/other colours will fade to the niche that they rightfully represent.
So who will control and ban the military fron interference in the internal affairs of Thailand.
I cannot resist adding:
The insurgency in the south of Thailand will also subside since it is fuelled primarily by the same rule by the military that is inspiring the reds only more so because the military in the south are exercising their violence, sadism and illegal businesses at levels so far not permitted to them, except in treating certain groups like refugees and “illegal migrant workers” in the rest of the country.
Prach
May 12th, 2010 at 3:53 am
I don’t think the Reds’ rejection of Abhisit’s offer to dissolve parliament in November should be read as the Reds changing their goal (or them not really having dissolution as their goal in the first place).
I think time frame is crucial to both the Reds and the government. A dissolution and fresh elections anytime before October would mean that Pua Thai Party would likely be in power in October and would be overseeing the annual appointments of military and police top brass in October, in which they would likely block General Prayut (a hardline royalist and anti-UDD) accession to Army General. For the same reason, it is crucial for the government to hang on to power at least until October, when they would likely push Gen Prayut to power.
As long as the army’s role is a major factor that decides the survival of a government (and possibly of some other institutions), and as long as the army chief has control over the army’s role, the appointment of army chief is a central concern for both parties.
Tony
May 12th, 2010 at 10:36 am
Reds are total scum working directly for Thaksin and duping these poor people that seriously need an education, to learn trades and get real jobs so they can build their communities themselves.
This is a by the book Marxist revolution, and of course both fascist and Marxist movements are generally backed by ultra rich, in this case Thaksin and a horde of chop-licking foreign investors, to take the wealth and power away from the ruling elite and middle class. Once the peasants are done destroying the country, it will be piecemeal sold off and rolled into the global banker’s system, just like Cambodia now.
This is not a conspiracy, it is written in hundreds of IMF, World Bank, and think tank documents, not just for Thailand but all of the developing world. Go to infowars on the Internet, or YouTube invisible empire. This has nothing to do with freedom, democracy, or social justice. If anything, if the UDD gets their way, the nightmare will just begin for these poor people.
We need a peaceful, local, real grassroots movement to fix the problems of poverty, poor education and a lack of jobs and opportunities. Something constructive. How an endless game of musical chairs in the government with equally corrupt politicians is going to address this is beyond me.